Jordi Comstock: No Plan B, Just Drums

In this episode of A Chat with Heart, host Christina Martin engages in a heartfelt conversation with musician Jordi Comstock. Jordi shares his journey in the music industry, the intersection of skateboarding and music, and the challenges of touring. The discussion also touches on family dynamics in music, memorable gigs, and the evolution of the music industry. Throughout the conversation, they emphasize the significance of focus, organization, and the joy of creating music together.

Website: Jordi Comstock

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to A Chat with Heart
• 11:30 The journey of Jordi Comstock and music
• 14:37 The Intersection of Music and Skateboarding
• 17:41 Overcoming Stage Fright and Performance Anxiety
• 23:34 The Evolution of the Music Industry
• 29:24 Family Dynamics in Music
• 38:25 Memorable Gigs and Experiences
• 41:34 The Challenges of Touring
• 50:26 Parting Thoughts and Advice

Transcript

Christina (00:00.206)
Hey, you're listening to A Chat with Heart. I'm your host, Christina Martin. I'm a singer-songwriter, curious human. I live on a dirt road in rural Nova Scotia with my partner in crime, Dale, and our Calico cat, Olivia. This podcast is basically just me chatting with people I admire. I like to ask questions that feed my curiosity and my guests have all taught me something. They either crack me up or they punch me right in the

If you've got questions, comments, or a burning desire to join the conversation, please call my heartbeat hotline, day or night. It's 1902-669-4769. You can also email me at christinamartinmusicatgmail.com. And if you want to throw a little love my way and help keep this thing going, visit my Patreon page. That's how artists like me get paid. Thanks for showing up. Warning, heartfelt content ahead.

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Christina (01:23.032)
Hey friends, welcome back to a chat with heart. It's been a good couple of weeks. No drama. I wish I had some drama to report for you, but I've worked really hard not to have any drama in my life. And I think it's, it's really, it's working. It is working. funny thing this morning, I noticed something. I was just getting up, you know, doing my morning routine, getting

My mocha, decaf mocha made. So I wanted to know, I wanted to check the weather. So what did I do? I reached for my phone and an hour and a half later, something told me, hey, didn't you reach for your phone to like look up the what? And I just like, I instinctively went to Instagram. Time was stolen from me for an hour and a half.

I can't get that back. Like I could have done a lot of really cool things in an hour and a half. Could have got a head start on a book. I could have done the four things on my to-do list today, um, that I was supposed to do in that hour and a half time. But anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is, uh, note to self, check yourself before you allow social media to rob you of your day.

Because ultimately I feel way better when I get through my to-do list and have like free time to putz around and just relax and you know, stuff's kind of done for the day. So I wanted to do this intro for my guest today. It's 8 p.m. now. I was planning on doing this at 8 a.m. So this is one of the things that got postponed. And then I end up staying up later and

I just get cranky. I don't know about y'all, but feel free to tell me. But if I don't get like seven, eight hours sleep, I find it really fucks with my mental health. Like I get super depressed, cranky. Like I just can't. It's hard to get through a day. I know, I realize as I'm saying this, like, oh, poor me. I don't have kids. Like a lot of you out there listening, like live with fatigue. You have lived with fatigue, you know, ever since you had your kids or...

Christina (03:49.678)
Uh, you know, you're just busier than I am, but in any case, that's my, uh, that's my moaning groan. Okay. But I did it. I made it. I'm catching up tonight on my things. I, the things I was supposed to do this morning in the hour and a half that I lost because social media stole my life an hour and a half of my life. can never get back. Uh, welcome to a chat with heart and things are going well here. Uh, Dale and I.

We have been in our home studio with our friend and drummer extraordinaire, Jordi Comstock, working on nine new songs this past week and Dale is continuing to flesh those songs out. Fleshing out sounds gross. I still use it. It just, it's, so he's flushing those songs out. Not ready for me yet to noodle around with overdubs and vocals, but it,

That's pretty exciting right now. They're just demos, but who knows? Maybe they'll turn into singles or album, an album. But what I do know is, if you are with me on my Patreon, you're going to get to hear whatever it is we come up with. Anyway, it was great to have Jordi in the studio. He is so creative, patient, and one of those rare p- patient with me. And he's patient. I think he's pr-

Maybe he is patient with me. I don't know if he's patient in general. Other people could speak to that. But he is one of those incredible humans who makes the process of making music feel fun, really enjoyable. Let's see what else. this last weekend I did a gig in Halifax. Thanks, Steph Purcell. The gig was for...

It was a fundraiser for Grocery Foundation Atlantic. They raise money that goes to places that support kids' mental and nutritional health. And it was so well organized, well executed. And I love those kinds of shows. When you go into a venue and everything's on time, folks are kind to everybody, the artists are treated with respect.

Christina (06:15.342)
And it's for a great cause. And bonus, you're usually tucked away in bed by a reasonable hour. So yeah, it was great. We got to dress up. I got to share the stage with Mackenzie Critch from Newfoundland, emerging artist with a very powerful voice and messages. Very smart. 20 years old, was blown away. And of course, Jen Grant, just mesmerizing. And Jodie Guthrow, who I had not...

ever met before and it was such a joy to meet her and perform with her and hear her beautiful song, which is still stuck in my head. Our apple trees in our backyard here in Port Howe are just bursting. We've been cleaning up the big beautiful fall mess on our property and since the burn band's been lifted most nights, we've been having little fires again and

The air outside, it's cooled down. It's just that perfect cozy time of year. I love it. Now I've been thinking a lot about how to feel less depressed this time of year. The darker days can be rough for people. And I heard this thing that Jane Fonda said recently, probably on Instagram while it was stealing my life, but it stuck with me. By the way, I just did another Jane Fonda workout video from like,

I think that, I think it was from the nineties. Uh, it was great cause people were wearing like cutoff jean shorts and she was in this like head to toe, no neck to toe, um, uh, black lace, leotard, super hot and hard workouts, Jane Fonda, like really good, but like, yeah, not, uh, not for the week. Not if you're a beginner. Anyway.

So Jane was saying on social media something that she does when she, because she genetically was predisposed to depression. So she says when she's depressed, she does something about the things she's depressed about and then she's no longer depressed. And I thought that was a great tip. That has worked for me for sure. But I am curious, what are you doing this fall if you experience depression?

Christina (08:40.525)
Whether it's like severe or mild or situational depression or something more severe. You can call my Heartbeat Hotline and share your own tips and tricks or experience. I'd love to feature your ideas in a future episode. So you can leave a message on the Heartbeat Hotline, the numbers at the beginning and end of the podcast, or you can just email ChristinaMartinMusic at gmail.com

with your experience living with depression. if you're cool with it, I will. If you write to me, it means you're cool with me sharing it on the podcast. Because a lot of people, this is something a lot of people live with and people always appreciate it, especially when they're in their darkest hour and they feel alone to hear somebody else say, hey, I'm there too. I've been there. Here's what's worked for me.

All right, my guest today is someone I've worked with for years. I absolutely love. I've already mentioned him. It's Jordi Comstock. Jordi was born in Lunenberg, Nova Scotia, is the son of a drummer and the grandson of a swing band leader. I did not fact check that, so I hope it's true. So Rhythm's been in his blood since day one. He... I might have stole this from his bio online, but I'll keep going.

So, Jordi started his first band, Hat, when he was 10, 10 years old, playing bars and festivals by age 11. I think I gave up my baby blanket when I was 11. Anyway, he's toured all over Canada, recorded with what feels like half of the East Coast music scene, and he's played with everyone from Rose Cousins to Ria May, Tim Baker, and lucky for me, me. He's one of the most in-demand drummers here in this part of the world and producer, a teacher.

co-owner of Comstock Recording Studios in Lunenberg. But you know what? We're not here just to list credits. I want to chat with Jordie about the heart behind all that music and its success. Let's dive in.

Christina (10:58.606)
Hey, dudes, we just got back from the skate park in Oxford. I don't know your history with skateboarding. when like, what's up with that?

was actually around the same time I got really into music was like gun and skateboarding. That's been a thing I've said it.

been tied to for like again, I was like nine years old and that was our social circle was like the blue that that's the thing even to get into music the blue building is not something you would have heard about outside of our area, but the blue building was like the The hub place where it was like phil swicker and like the guys that we grew up doing summer rock camp with joel plastic i was in the band joel lived in lunenberg And that was like max turton and these older guys that skateboarded

had a ramp at the ABCO lot and then eventually at the blue building by like the arena, there was a little park that we had that was like completely ramps that we had built and done ourselves. But it was like the hub because all the people that played music and that were really into music were also in the skateboard. mean, all were in that little area and skated together. So that's how I met Phil Swicker, Hugh Morris that I was in Mad Hat with.

That's how we formed that band. was like we were at the skate park and we like, you play? Okay, yeah man, go to my house and like go to Phil's place and like jam and play shitty covers and kind of start doing that.

Christina (12:33.102)
Wait, skating was a gateway to music?

A little bit like I my dad was a drummer so I started playing when I was like five Yeah, and I was always into that and I started really getting into practicing and really getting into it around You know when it like probably 10 11 But like again the same time I was starting to skateboard and hanging out with those people And that was the introduction to punk music metal and that whole thing and Satan. Yeah Yeah for sure. And so we all kind of mingled we introduced each other to music like the sex like

Satan.

Jordi (13:04.802)
Joel said at the show you were at, we were talking about it and he was saying about Max Turton and those guys. I was like, man, you remember Max Turton from back then? Because we were so young and there was a big age gap. But Max was like that older group. brought in cassette tapes and ghetto blasters and put it, plugged it in. You couldn't avoid it. wasn't like, let's listen to something. It was like, you're listening to Sex Pistols and The Misfits and Metallica and you get used to it. But it was amazing. It was like a...

Amazing introduction for a bunch of like nine-year-olds feeling. Yeah, what is this? I? Got something to say I'm not gonna quote misfit lyrics, but at the time it was like what is this? This is like insane and But yeah, so that was the thing and we ended up The other guys that were really into music we ended up getting together with and jamming and starting bands and putting on our own shows and so that was like tied into the whole thing and And like yeah, we're playing getting

Yeah.

Jordi (14:02.486)
like booming airplanes and people that come down and do the all-age shows and do the shows we put down in our area that were like rental halls and things.

Yeah, DIY. So I just want to back it up a bit and say welcome to a chat with her podcast. You're a little heartbeat listener occasionally, aren't you? Do you have a favorite episode?

is like, yeah.

Jordi (14:24.515)
Definitely.

Favorite one actually the the tombidow one I listened to last night was interesting and the part of it that was really cool two things Tom being like the whole thing where he said he didn't get nervous about any things and all the things involved with and Presenting at ECMAS and all that stuff. Yeah that Kind of blows my mind that those type of people exist Do because I'm always like play drums I'm cool with being in the background and doing that whole thing but it's like being up front or having to present or

Yeah, me too.

Jordi (14:56.632)
do something like that is like, that would freak me out and get me really stressed out. So I was like, wow, that's kind of cool that people are wired that way. And there's that different is like, why can't I have a little of that?

Well, you, well, because you have what, what those other people don't have and they need you. But I'm kind of curious because you actually, whenever we've been like, Hey, you know, out of practice or whatever, let's do some, some promotional videos or whatever, and just goof off. You are like a star. You you don't come across as somebody when like that is shot. mean, I just saw you at summer of rock.

You come alive

Christina (15:36.886)
And when was that? In the nineties, you guys?

That was a 91 concert, that one that they just converted to digital.

You looked like you really enjoyed being in the, you know, like being on stage and, moving your body and like, I, you're a very, seem to be very in touch with all that. So.

It is different because that's all every there wasn't a single case and any of that that would have been me by myself.

You've never been like a by yourself frontman kind of

Jordi (16:06.754)
and not like, it happened to speak in class or the teacher would say, hey, could you read this thing in the book? I'd be like, I don't know. Like I was a good reader or whatever, but I'd just be so nervous that I'd be like, and feel uncomfortable. But same thing there. It's like, if we're messing around and we're filming stuff, it's still just a bunch of friends hanging out and trying to make each other laugh. It's not like, it's like, this is like me by myself trying to, and then I get like freaked out. Different thing for me, but yeah.

Yeah,

Christina (16:35.064)
Dale, what about you? Same. Dale's. But you, I've, I've played in your band once or twice and you, I couldn't tell that because you were a great front person as far as I could tell.

Yeah, you see, you're same boat.

Jordi (16:44.391)
Yeah, you can.

Jordi (16:49.006)
Yeah, I mean you can you get used to doing it if you do it, as soon as you don't do it for a while then you get It's probably the same thing as like I will do things be If I have to because if it allows me to play music or do you know what I mean? Like yeah, I don't know is it was it kind of the same for you It was like I'm gonna be the front man have to talk to this audience because it allows me to go and play my music and it's part of it When I was a kid I was so

so shy. There's nothing else that would have got me in front of a group of people or on a stage with lights on me. Nothing else would have got me on except for music. That's the only thing. Exactly.

That's a point though that you do the things that scare you so you can do the thing you love. I I can I totally relate to that as well and then you either you know get comfortable with it or end up on medication of some kind to help slow your heart rate down and you know get through it but...

But that's, again, you are pretty good with feeling. Same thing, like you can get in front of a crowd by yourself and do it.

Well, if I'm, if I'm over-prepared, I, I, I prepare a lot, you know, like if you're on a long tour, everything just kind of becomes automatic, but like we don't do a whole lot of touring. get nervous. I, I over-prepare so that I can relax a little bit more, but I get worried about, yeah, I do, you know, worry about all everything, all the sound, like, it going to sound good? Is everybody comfortable? Yeah.

Christina (18:29.026)
Like I can barely tune my guitar. have trouble focusing. So I get nervous about that. So I just try to, you you learn all these things about like what, what scenario you do best in, and then you try to replicate that each time so that you're a little bit comfort. But, but yet I do know that if I don't, like if I always stay in my comfort zone, then I, I won't grow. I, I'll have these periods where I intentionally challenge myself. and it's uncomfortable and it,

And then I will take a break from that. So my nervous system will calm down and then kind of, you know, like quietly do all the things I'm comfortable with and learn by myself. then, I don't know, it's, it is nerve wracking though, when people are staring at you and they're, you know, they're, I don't mean judging in a negative way, but everyone's always making judgments, right? And like, I mean, but it's interesting to me because you have a, to me playing drums, one of the loudest things in a band.

Exactly.

Jordi (19:21.014)
Yeah.

Christina (19:29.294)
And if the drummer fucks up, you know, you can really hear it. whereas like, don't know, like if you're really off or you just like suck, you don't. I can say this stuff to you. But like, and even when you make a mistake, it's like not a bad mistake. Like, you know, we know, cause we know what we've been rehearsing. But you know it immediately and you catch it. then it's never like,

Exactly.

Christina (19:56.174)
A horrible like I'm known for going to just completely wrong chord, wrong key. I'll cycle through four chords that I know to get, if I can't hear it, I don't know if I can get back to it, but anyway. So going back to your dad was a drummer and like, did you know right away this is the instrument I love or like, you're just like, I'm doing this.

I go through every cord.

Jordi (20:24.974)
Did you try other ones? well, yeah, kind of. Kirk at one point. Kirk's your brother. Yeah, Kirk's my brother and, yeah. And he played, we toured together in being called Mad Hat and for a long time. But, but that was a cool springboard to just like get experience and tour and, and work together. But he, at one point I wanted to learn just basic chords and guitar and just see if I could get into that. But.

And that was cool just for for Being able to write a little bit, but even then I i'd use a keyboard if I was writing stuff But and I took piano lessons, but I mean I did the standard The series books that everybody does the conservatory like, know program but Didn't really enjoy it felt like every time I was doing something else I was like I could be putting this time into the thing I really love and I want to get really good at and I felt like if

really put all my energy in this one thing and really did it. You it's gonna be better for me than spreading myself out. But that's, you know, some people are the opposite. Like they just wanna have, like be able to figure everything out and, you know, but I was always like, I wanna be a specialist. I wanna like attack this thing and just do it to the max. And that's like, you know.

Yeah, I admire that. I admire this focus on one thing and become, and you are, you've really excelled in it. not only do you teach it, but it's just, it's like, I just think the chances of you doing that thing and doing well with it, which I think you are, you're making a living, you're very busy. And you know, you're just like, you're our go-to.

like for our session players here, because we just rely on you. Like you're so reliable and you come with all these great ideas. And that is because you're doing it all the time, you know? And anyway, I admire it, but I think a lot of people, I think there's also a lot of like, I have to have a plan, A, B, D. I've gone through that myself. Like I need a backup plan. And you end up sometimes falling back on that and you know.

Jordi (22:36.812)
That's the thing that I'm a big.

I'm a musicology buff. also like I search out interviews for all my favorite players and hearing people one of the ones like so many times that I've heard like the people I've admired like Kenny Aronoff is one of my favorite session drummers and does all the different stuff and there's been so many drummers that I respect that were like He I in his book. He's like I never had a plan b I was just like no if I have a plan b i'm gonna gonna use it i'm just gonna like it's this or die It's like this is it do whatever it takes. That's it. And that's the

and that's always kind of been my approach things that way. But again, this is stuff that I read afterwards and I always felt like a bit of an alien as I always like, I really love this thing and I wanna do it all the time and what does it take that I can just do this?

and just spend my time doing this because I love it so much. And then, and that was the approach I took. And again, a lot of people coming up didn't agree with me and would give me shit. And it was a struggle for sure. But then later in life, when I'd read these biographies, I'd be like, oh man, okay, well, you know, these people admire, like had this similar mindset. I'm not an alien. It's not like a weird freaky thing. even like, I still run into people all the time. just, when I have conversations with them, they're just like, I don't get it. Like how do you, you can't do that.

I had people in school and like people again in positions of power that supposed to be in developmental positions to help kids where like would tell me like no you can't do that that doesn't exist. I distinctly remember one thing where it like in school, okay, what are you going to do for a living and what are you going to go into for a vacation and of course a study and I said, well, I'm going to do music. And at the time we were like, I was just got back from a tour.

Jordi (24:17.688)
across Canada and we were doing it. We were selling merchandise. We were on no records with Wayne Mason running it. yeah. We were staying it. Like the guys from Lenn would put us up in their apartment in Toronto and Hayden was like, opened the bill and we were in the middle and I was like, this is amazing. And I came back to do exams and then talk to people and they're like, okay, well, what are you going to do? And I said, I'm going to play music and just keep doing this. it's, you know, where we working. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then the Dole boys like had us open up for the tours and

doing it.

Jordi (24:45.614)
I was like, this is fun. I just keep doing this. But they, remember them saying it, even with that, and we used to promote in the schools and stuff. You're like, I thought it was pretty well. No, we made an effort to try to promote and what everybody was like this thing where I remember them telling me like, no, you can't do that. And I was like, but, but I am now. Like, well, yeah, but that could change. And that doesn't, that's, you're not going to have longevity. You need a backup plan and don't go to school for music. Like go to, for something else. I'm like, we just got offered this deal that

I'm basically making the choice, do I go to music school or do I stay on the road? Because we got this great opportunity and I was kind of like, I'm gonna take the opportunity because I know so many people that go to Berkeley and go for a term, a semester, and then they're out because they hook up with the band because they want to go on the road and do it. So was like, we got this opportunity. I'm like, I'm gonna do this. And they were telling me, no, that doesn't exist and have a backup plan, go to school for accounting or like take over your parents' business. And I'm like,

Well, I those people are like, really just don't know because they haven't seen it themselves. Yeah. Well, you could, you could hit someone, but they, or they're like, they went through it and they were not successful for whatever reason. Cause it is, it is a tough go for a lot of musicians and especially now, but, but I mean,

That's the thing, I can't get mad.

Christina (26:06.968)
Though I wanted to capture him just drinking the chicory. Chat with heart sponsored by Chicory Boo. Chicory Boo. that's what I just called it. I could just repackage this. I bought like 10 packs of 10 jars of this yummy chicory coffee stuff. I digress, but,

So what it

Christina (26:35.086)
Oh, I was going to ask you because like, mean, I know how it is, a lot of it, unless you do have like record labels can come and go and bands can break up and all that. But in terms of you and how you've made it work, like you must have, what was it that you, so you teach and you have, you're a session player, you're a live player. you, within what you do, you have.

Sorry.

Jordi (27:01.829)
Exactly. It's that you led. That's the thing. The key to survival, especially in this era, I feel is it used to be you guys know, back when we were coming up, it was always like you're in a band or you're with an artist and you go for the record deal. And that's the only way you have the success. And now it's like completely different landscape. And it's just, well, there's so many different ways to, make a living in it. And, it really requires being involved in all of them because one thing could take off and be really successful at any point, but doing them all and just

keeping it going. just like keeps it that you're again you're continuously doing things and bringing it making money and and doing it.

You're really organized. Like I, I do think you to make it work. It does help to have a certain kind of personality type. Like what are the things about yourself that you think like your personality and like your, maybe your upbringing or your work ethic that kind of keep you in this and keep like, I know why I keep calling you. I could go on. I will go on in the introduction about why, but, what do you think? Like, why do you think you're so fucking special?

Christina (28:13.854)
I do. organizing all that, because some people just can't. Yeah. don't, they're flaky. don't, you send them emails. don't fucking read them or remember them. don't know.

That's the thing, my parents, they ran a business and my mother was very organized and took care of the clerical things a lot of the time and ran things and was very organized, hardworking and my dad, same thing, hardworking and just they did that really well. So seeing them do that and how they operated, it was like, you kind of need, that's just the example of how you.

run any business and music is no different. You can't just like throw stuff up in the air and hope that it lands in any place. It's like, no, you have to, again, when we're starting to do shows, you learn how, okay, well, how does the infrastructure work? We have to book shows for ourselves. We have to try to make merch. We have to do publicity and all the things that are involved with it. And like at a very young age, you're like, it's work, it's job. And a lot of people don't get that. They thought we were just messing around and.

whatever, and we were, were having a blast, but it was like, it was a lot of work. And you're going to school at the same time, trying to balance everything and not flunk out of school and do the things and hone your craft. And so that's the thing. It's like, you learn from that really early on, even though we were involved with punk bands and people have this perception of heavy music and people in those bands as being like reckless and not caring and just whatever, getting, know, partying. was like, no, there was so much work involved that you really had to stay on top of things.

We like, it was back in the days when you had to have a map to go on tour, paper. Yeah, and you had to call the clubs and you had to, had a paper calendar and mark it all off, do the check the boxes and, and booking your own tour was like brutal. But like my brother and I, we handle most of that stuff at a very young age. So it was like, you, if you didn't do it, it just, nothing was going to happen. So you just learned like, okay, if I want this to work and I want to be able to play these shows, I've got to do X, Y, and Z.

Christina (29:51.733)
Yeah, I remember that.

Jordi (30:17.41)
and there was no sidestepping it. So that was it.

Tell me about the business, is it your mom and your dad ran it together? Is it your dad an ophthalmologist or an optician? What the other ops?

social optical

Jordi (30:33.174)
Yeah, and my uncle

ophthalmologist and... that'd be someone that... trying to picture what that would be... optometrist, optician,

Propeomologist? Optometrist. Demologist. are the two. What is an optician? What can they do?

Optician is the person that makes the glasses and puts it like gets the lenses puts them in the frames and fits them and sells them and The optometrist is the person to test your eyes and that's what my uncle did and my grandfather did yeah, and my mom would be like kind of run things in the business and the orders and Inventory and everything. Yeah

Gotcha.

Christina (31:16.35)
And Kirk, you and Kirk, you're the only kids. I mean, tell me like about your relationship, because I know you still work together. Tell me about that too. But like, did you always get along or?

Yeah, because like again same thing we we started playing music and skateboarding the same time and did it the same again still both do it professionally and and He stopped skateboarding because he blew his acl like when we were way back So he he didn't keep doing that part of things but but we've always been Since we were like again, we played in a band. We're 10 years old. were doing school

Events we did the strawberry jam festival. We played the heritage lounge when we were like 11 together playing covers And then we just started writing our own stuff with downfall who you saw that that video we watched for summer rock 91. Because for some people that are listening they're just digitized like a summer rock camp 91 that that Dale and I and Joel Plaskett and a whole bunch of people like guys from Thrust Hermit Ian James Yeah

Yes, yes, Ian.

Will Langstroth, your cousin, your... Yeah, and I mean, there were so many people. Yeah, Kev Corbett, I think was there. Yeah, that's right, A ton of great people that are still doing it, but yeah, we did that camp together and I kind of lost my train of thought there. Where was I? was the downfall thing. noticed, because I forgot about...

Christina (32:29.884)
Yeah, we'll use in it.

Jordi (32:53.742)
Because I always think about Mad Hat and that's where things started. But I saw Phil Swicker that we played in Mad Hat with and played for a long time with. He had a Downfall shirt on when he did his crazy solo in that video. And that's like, how old was he? He was like 15 or something? He's younger than me. He's 14, 15. Man, and the solo he plays in that. was like, I hadn't seen that in years. I was like, damn, he was so good.

I was really impressed. It made me almost want to quit music. I was like, how, how are these kids like so good? And I mean, could see, you could see who, some of them actually, I don't think kept doing music like that, that girl, Amy. did she? Okay. Cause she's really good. The singer that wasn't it? Amy, is it Solowitch?

She did actually

Jordi (33:41.684)
Yeah, I just looked her up. She's in Dawson. And one of the other drummers that at that camp is now with like Matt Dusk and he's like living in Toronto and doing it hard. really? Yeah, it's like there's so many people from that year and all through the summer rocks I like that but it was weird because I again the downfall thing was the start but we were doing that as downfall is when we started writing because I remember we had a cassette tape that we made that when we first wrote our own

Okay.

Jordi (34:09.878)
Songs and there was like a one called the beginning of the end that was like a bunch of my punk friends and metal friends were like Yeah, they still will yell that at me when I go play something But but yeah, was kind of started with that that that early and then we again we started kind of doing the manna thing kind of making records and meeting different people like The no records crew like marco stanzo from Len

and Wade Mason and that gang. And then we started touring pretty hard. But yeah, my brother was always part of that, right from the beginning. And like I say, until now, because now we play in air traffic control together, and we're always working together doing stuff.

You guys don't like roll your eyes at each other do you sometimes?

No, I think there was like early Midteen thing where you get into a little bit of you're not you're pretty immature as as human beings So you get into stupid stuff where you're trying to out-punk rock each other. Oh, yeah You know what mean? Like there's that that trend back in in that era whereas like you There you hardcore like blah blah blah So you'd had to be the play the tough guy thing all the time. Sometimes that would that didn't work well now It stupid but but but no we do we get along

Did you ever have like a party phase where you were into like booze and alcohol? Cause you don't do any of that now,

Jordi (35:39.18)
Yeah, did early on, I was like done with it at the end of high school. yeah? Yeah, I pretty much quit everything. It was like one straight edge, like right at high school.

Wildest thing you've ever done under the influence chat with heart

Yeah, I don't think.

Okay, something you're comfortable sharing.

man. I like, yeah, I definitely tried the stuff in high school to see what it was all about. And that was like, that was the thing that I think led to me like, this is not a good idea for me. Cause I think that's part of the thing was my personality is like, if I do something, I'm going to see how far you can take it. Take it to the max. So yeah, it all or nothing. So was like, if I went out,

Christina (36:23.042)
you're

Jordi (36:26.51)
and we're gonna drink, was like, hey, this stuff, I feel pretty good. It's like, if I had more, it would be even better. And it was just getting to the point of like, I'd find the line every time. And it was like, no, this isn't sustainable. So was like, no, this isn't a good idea for me at all.

Yeah, it's good that you knew that about yourself. Dale? Yes? What about you? What? Did you experiment with...

For you at Nuke of Stock. Nuke of Stock, We did a festival together. I think that was fairly tame. I only stayed... You got out before people started slugging each other in the bushes and like freaking out on acid. were like... Yeah, because we were like pretty... We were pretty young then, right? Like what... Again, I'm older than you. So if you were what, 16 or 17, I was 18 or 19. Yeah.

What?

Christina (37:01.068)
Yeah

Jordi (37:24.114)
Well, no, you must have

shoulder.

Yeah. In any case, I knew to get out of there. I stuck around for a bit. Yeah, that got wild. There's one of those like festivals that somebody put on that was good intentions. mean, they had a of a bunch of cool bands at Boomi Air Plains and we played it. And it was like Essen or like...

It wasn't booming airplanes. was Nebraska. Nebraska. Was it? Yeah, that's right. was before booming airplanes. But I remember that that turned into a complete like that just, we were there with a van. I was sleeping in the van or something. I just remember by a certain point, it just got like off the rails. Like people were like freaking out on acid hammering the locals. Like some redneck locals were just like punching people because they long hair and like going down a walking path. And there's just, Oh man, it got, it went.

it went crazy. That was wild.

Christina (38:24.694)
That is cool. Well, it's cool to those stories. It's gross sleeping in a van. Yeah.

Yeah. Is it?

Jordi (38:29.55)
Well, I did that so many times across Canada doing the Connelly Yeah, doing what we used to do like the cross Canada tours were like you do the provincial parks because they had showers or whatever me camp it was like you some people sleep in the van you have a tent and then you'd like be able to shower there and and Whatever and have a Stove or something that you cook on. Yeah, but we did that for a very long time

And now you ride in style. Drummers are incredible though. and I, I think it, correct me if I'm wrong, but like it, actually is the case that drummers sometimes get paid more than everyone else because they have, because they're lugging like so much shit around and their setup time is usually longer and tear down. And I mean, I'm assuming that's one of the reasons why.

Now drive a Venza.

Jordi (39:14.646)
scale was drummers would get paid more.

Jordi (39:26.914)
That's the is, like, it's the CBC gigs, there is a cartage, an extra cartage fee for that. it's like you get your normal performance thing and then they do throw in for like, you get an extra cart. I remember the first time that happened, I was like, that's kind of cool. Cause a of times that doesn't happen, but it was like a substantial cartage fee. was like, man, that's all right. But just like you say, it's like being there first and, you know, having to lug it all. And I'm just used to it cause that's what you do, part of the job, you know?

Yeah, that's cool.

Christina (39:55.234)
That's another level of commitment that I just don't think I could do. If I have to bring a pedal, I get annoyed or an extra cable. Isn't Olivia being so good? Olivia, our muted calico kitty is here in studio. Just cozy as can be. She came to the skate park with us earlier, little terrified at the thunderous sound that Jordi was making, but she enjoyed the ride.

and the entertainment. So what are some standout gigs that you've played? Stages, experiences where you're like, this is the shit. This is cool.

That one will be open for the killers. My god, that was like surreal.

my god

yeah, that was pretty... Can you... Like we were standing on stage watching... Wait, were you...

Jordi (40:47.086)
I still have the videos on my phone. I've shown that to students because I'm like man check this out We almost got burnt by the pyro. Yeah, remember these that one thing when the one song happens There's like the wall of sparks behind them and like no one really hit us to like maybe stand a little further over It was just all sudden these sparks there the wall of sparks happens and like whoa cool and it was like the dudes from the psychedelic furs were there like yeah right there I'm like this is

Yeah, that was wild. I have that actually footage on my desktop and I was trying, was, I haven't had time, but I was going to grab some clips for us to post on my Patreon and share with you guys. The show we did. Yeah. loved the way they treated us. Like, you know, first of all, that festival.

was so much fun.

Jordi (41:27.054)
footage of the actual

Christina (41:40.2)
RBC Blues Fest, absolutely super pro, incredible team. They pay you well. They feed you well. There's like, they had a smoothie bar and a beautiful spread cafeteria and like everything was clean, like the bathrooms and it was just really, I mean, I'm not opposed to, know, it doesn't have to be that standard every time, but it was just like, felt luxurious. had all these beautiful backstage places to hang out and.

We had our own trailer, which is rare.

sound was incredible. we played, I remember a lot of the crew were like, you guys are so good.

Yeah, so that was fun. What about a worst? Do have any really?

Oh my god, I've had yes so many those two but oh Yeah one that stands out for me and again I don't think there's any harm in saying what it is They wouldn't care but but I remember being like on tour in like northern Ontario and it was like Sudbury the townhouse. Oh, yeah Yeah, so, know, it's all my but they have like a they had Like a band room

Jordi (42:52.472)
that was part of it. don't know. Are they still going? they still? They're still there as far as I know. I don't know if the band room is. B.A. Johnson punched me in the face.

Do you remember the bandroom, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:03.208)
What? What? Why?

Fun?

We were arm wrestling and I was just winning and he went and he did the classic move is like, that's not anything he didn't remember doing it. Was he wasted or I think so? Yes. Wow. And that wasn't a it wasn't a punch punch. Yeah, it was like a dirty like, I just remember there was like that was like a long string of dates where it was like.

Is he the only one who's ever punched you?

Christina (43:25.87)
So what was wrong with that?

Jordi (43:33.28)
And I know like Joel said about with Thrustermint, like it was around the same time. was like, working really hard, but like some of the bands that like were like in that scene were working really hard to tour and trying to like, cause everyone tells you, you got to just hit the road and do it. So we were, but it was like, it was a grind. And I remember being exhausted. We did like super long drive and I did, I think that this long, like 11 hour drive or something to it. I went and I was super fucking tired. I remember doing, having to do check and I was like just fighting to stay awake.

And then we played and we were like, at the time we were like going, going for it. we, and we were loud. We were playing hard and heavy and we were trying to really just make it a statement. didn't really learn to play a room. And I just remember being like, like four or five locals in there that were just didn't know what we were, why we were there. And we were, and we were just like, swinging for the fences. And I just remember them being like,

And I remember the people around was like, Oh man, you don't have to keep this is too loud. You don't have to play. I was like, this is miserable. I'm so tired. Why? And then stay in the band room or whatever. And I remember like, it was kind of a bad situation. And I remember Kirk fell asleep. He was so tired that I was scared. He, he was dead because I couldn't wake him up. It was like, it was like the whole thing. It was like the whole tour was degrading and getting like more uncomfortable and just feeling pointless. And it was just like, I remember him like shaking him. like, Kirk, you got to wake up, man. We got to.

We had to do this thing and he wouldn't and I just kept shaking him and he was so tired I just couldn't wake him up and I was like, we're frightened. I was like that No, like I don't know what it took but eventually he did come too. no, we threw him in the van and eventually shook him enough that he like woke up But I mean, it's weird usually like I'm a light sleeper if you tap you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what do you want? This was like Kirk You know just floppy and like moving him. He's like

Did you call 911?

Jordi (45:25.366)
And then I was like slapping him in the face and like nothing I'm like, man, this is weird both shoulders like It's like and eventually that's what it's like. It's rolling around like ragdoll trying to get him to wake up is like

my God. We've done a couple things. Like remember the long, I don't know, it like a nine hour drive to Poland from, I don't know, let's say Frankfurt or something.

just a couple of those things and I'm like, we're never doing this again. We're never doing this drive again. I just don't care enough. I'd rather not sing. So when you're tired, because I don't get pleasure from singing or performing when I don't feel good. Do you get pleasure even?

Not with

Jordi (46:12.942)
Oddly enough, find sometimes what I feel like I've played some of my best shows when I've been really tired because I'm not thinking and I'm not. It's just I'm in this other kind of headspace. I'm like, I'm just watching myself play and I'm like, hey, this is all right. I'm relaxed.

That

Christina (46:29.006)
No, that makes sense. There is like a sweet spot where you get, you do, are fatigued or you're kind of in this zone where you just sort of like a little bit of a zombie, but you still have energy and you're still have your voice or your whatever you can. Yeah, you can still move. But you know, if, I don't get my eight hours beauty sleep, I just know. But that's why I like the longer tours. Cause you just kind of get into this zone where you don't have to.

You know everything so well. can play it and sing it with your...

You get the road telepathy that that's the best thing ever. If you've been doing a string of dates and you get into about like the third or fourth show of like doing them daily, it's like there's just like everything is just you can read each other's minds. Like that's the best.

Yeah. So what are you working on? I mean, now. Well, now you're working on my, we're actually recording nine songs this weekend here at home. But like, what's exciting for you? Your own stuff, your bro, are you doing one with your bro?

We're doing stuff. just did the thing open for classified in our hometown. had a big Oktoberfest thing. So that was super fun. Those guys were super nice. Like they were really cool. Yeah. And I think we got a shout out from, Quake, Matthews. was a thing and somebody sent us a Lincoln said, what was the line and one of his new things tracks. It was like something about it. And I don't know if they were just sending it because maybe this song already existed a long time ago, but for him, he's a super nice guy.

Jordi (48:02.382)
There's something getting so high, I might call air traffic control. I was like, and someone sent it to us. was like, yeah. And I was like, damn, I don't know. I don't know if that's, if you put us in there as like, a reference or, but someone, someone the other day after doing the, you know, after playing that show a few weeks later or something, he's like, check out this track or whatever and it to us and tagged us. And it's like, check this out. And I was like, oh, that's really cool. But Quake was, we ended up hanging out with him and talking. Man, he just did a thing with Ice Cube.

And like he's got a lot of cool stuff on the go. Like he's really cool. But class Ria was there. That was so much fun. I was like, I hadn't seen Ria since like Montreal, like with Gabrielle Papio and we toured and we like showed up at her place. Our Airbnb fell through or something and we just showed up at her door and she like helped us out and came out to the shows and stuff. She was awesome. But, but

But yeah, so doing that, we've got like with Air Trap, we also got more shows coming up, like the acoustic things, where like I was in rehearsal just before I came here to get ready for that stuff. And I was also like, I was in rehearsal with Chris, Chris and Martel, because we've got a bunch of showcases, one in DEP and one in...

Yarmouth, she's got a new record. I'm going to do the drums for we're starting to work on that and do pre-production and Norm MacDonald. We're supposed to do her new record pretty soon. I think in November, Jessica Russell is a country artist that we just did a single for, but we're supposed to do, I think she's talking about doing a bunch of more stuff. Cool. And yeah, I've got some other like tracks I need to get to people too for different things, a bunch of shows and stuff with all kinds of, and Norm has got shows and.

All the different people have shows. Yeah, it's been good. It's been steady, but it kind of needs to be. That's thing, know, kind need it to have the regular stuff spaced out in the calendar.

Christina (49:43.541)
Kind of busy.

Christina (49:51.766)
What would you do if like you had an empty week?

I practice. Which shed?

Okay. Would you go on a vacation? Where would you go?

Even I, my wife Eva, we were talking, she's a teacher so- Hey Eva! Yeah, hey Eva. We had talked about possibly, with her schedule being a teacher, trying to figure out when we could both go somewhere together that it wouldn't be too long that I wouldn't get, you know, tied up with work stuff and same thing with her. that's probably her. It is, she just wrote me.

Oh, let's, uh, you have a question for you for the podcast?

Jordi (50:34.646)
No, she just loved my message. I just said we had a good day in the studio and everything. and she had a video with a, cause she just, we talked about she went to Australia. So, cool. So she did have a good video, FaceTime video with Angie, her sister and the kids. They just moved to Tasmania and she went to visit them, did the whole trip.

Aww.

Christina (51:03.778)
That's a big trip.

Yeah. So she's been, you know, trying to stay in contact with them online, but it's tricky. But yeah, as far as doing trips, I couldn't do the thing to that Tasmania because it was like three weeks and I had to punch a stuff book. But we talked about possibly like maybe we could both line up for March break because it'd be like a little less than a week. And, um, and it may be Jamaica because she's never been to a tropical area. And I'm usually into like culture trips, like

Yep, that's her again.

Jordi (51:34.4)
New Orleans and in places where like the food and the music is the main thing. But Jamaica would be like the spot, think. I could use the tropical thing right now. I'm usually not craving it, but I could do that. Food and the music too. and the music, right? That'd be fun. I think the two is that would be really fun. If we can make it work this year, we'll see. It's yet to be seen, but that would be kind of fun. I'd love to go somewhere sunny with her. That'd super fun.

Will you be able to not practice while you're there?

I will practice on there. You will? I'll take a practice pad. Mornings like, when I do like that thing, if I go on vacation, I usually do New Orleans and just go for four days, but I still take a practice pad and stuff and a book and do the mornings before I go to the Stanley on Jackson Square and for breakfast. And, that's kind of my thing from a way I just have to do a little bit of, you know, for

my gosh, it's incredible.

Christina (52:30.094)
That's really cool. I relish the days where I don't have to do anything now. Like I have this daydream that when I someday like I'll just be able to kind of just up until noon, like lounge in my robe and drink a chicory coffee, read, journal, write some songs, but like not actually change my clothes. And then...

I don't know. Maybe that's like, maybe I'm thinking about retirement or something. And then I just entertain people. Like, I mean, for dinner and tea and bake and stuff and take care of Dale. Because he's, well, he's recording the songs that I've written in the morning in my robe. But practicing is not, I have to, it's a, it's it's a, I'll put it on my schedule, obviously. I just don't love.

Christina (53:28.098)
doing it unless it is with like, you know, a bunch of people, but then I get excited to do it, but I find it.

Well, it's different to you. I've talked to my brother about it because he is a writer, singer, songwriter. And again, he spends a lot of time sitting with guitar trying to figure out patterns and melodies for writing purposes and lyrics and that sort of thing. it's still practice. It's discipline you have to sit there and commit to. And you do the same thing, but you're just not classifying as.

Yeah, I

Practice thing, but it's a necessary thing to hone what you do as a musician, as an artist, you know, where my thing is like, I'm there to deliver drums and play them precisely and come up with parts and know the options and all that stuff. So I have to explore all the different things. And so that's, you know what I mean? So like the same thing, really, but it's like, it just makes sense that you wouldn't be like, I'm going to write some great songs. You know what mean?

Yeah. I'm busy. I'm busy studying the human, the human heart and mind and human behavior.

Jordi (54:38.542)
You said you've written more songs this year than, well, like in the past 20 years.

Yes, that's true because I actually worked, I to work really, really hard to change some behavior patterns and like really make it a priority, which you would think wouldn't be so hard, something you really love to do. But I, I, I love like getting things done. So anything that's distracting that I can get done, whether it's like a, a domestic chore or like bookkeeping, like those.

are dopamine drops for my brain. And I could do that all fucking day and week and month. And I've done that. I've done that. Or coming up with a new dream or scheme, not scheme, but you know what I mean? I'm dreaming and scheming. And then next thing you know, a year goes by and you haven't written a song. And then I feel sad. And so I was like, enough is enough. You've been, this is a pattern you now are able to track for the last 20 years. You have journal proof.

And you know what, the other thing that's interesting is I've been, when I, cause I go through my journals to my, I mine them for song ideas. I don't remember anything I write and most of it is so fucking boring and repetitive that I have, I've kind of stopped journaling for now. Instead I just go right to songwriting. Like I just skip boring shit. Cause it was all the same for the last 20 years. It was all like nothing super useful.

them.

Christina (56:12.93)
boring shit and I end up burning the pages because some of them are also really embarrassing. I'm also extremely like, I have very content with like my life. I don't have much to complain about. know, I used to journal to kind of work through shit. And so yeah, I guess now I'm at that point where I'm trying to get more, just jump right, get up and just go write a song, but put her in your calendar is another.

Yeah, totally.

Christina (56:42.478)
easy little, I guess, tidbit there. Just put it on your calendar, make a co-writing date, and just, you know, then you can't get out of it. Well, I guess you could.

Well, that's the thing. I like that that you kind of schedule in and know this is designated time to do this. And that's the thing about like in Nashville, the stable writers and some of the people, they just sit down, they're going to write every day and they're just going to do it. You mean it's something. Yeah, but it's like, again, if you spend that much time doing some throwing of the walls, some stuff's going to stick. And I like that. I like that idea.

Well, I mean, this is, we booked this weekend with you. did not fin- these songs were not done. Some of them are still, I'm working on lyrics and, and, um, but we were, we went to Austin in June and every morning we made a commitment to work on at least one song a day. And then we had all these, you know, pieces and I was like, okay. So we did that thing that I actually don't like to do, but we did it where we book the sessions before the songs are done.

Hey

And then it's, you know, then we had to get, you know, I was emailing the last couple of weeks. Okay, Jordi.

Jordi (57:51.186)
I that's not like you it's usually like I have these very specific things and this is like no it's like I was like they're kind of rough you know and I was like yeah really rough it's not well you say that though but I hear them as like they're very well fleshed out they're good they're great songs it was like to me it's like I mean yeah like you can tell you just threw him down you know set in front of Mike with a guitar and just weren't concerned with you know getting it

The performance perfect, was just getting it down, but the songs were like well crafted and like well sussed out.

That's, yeah, that is a big part of like, you know, that work is done and then you got to get to the polishing and the phrasing and the singing and you eventually got to care about that. Or I like to care about that stuff, but in all it's, you know, here we are, we're now doing nine songs this weekend with you and we'll, we'll, Dale, we'll have lots to work on. I will have lots to do too over the next while. But if we hadn't have booked that session, like I could have procrastinated until I was ready.

And everything was perfect, but I'm trying to break that.

like that move, that is cool. It's in the deadline, man, sometimes that's the thing. it's the thing. totally.

Christina (59:00.302)
And it's a better deadline than like a deadline for grant writing. It's more, you know, I can, that's a little stressful and annoying.

At end of a grant, what do you have, a grant? At the end of a recording session you have songs or an album.

Yeah, you're gonna get it.

Christina (59:15.304)
You do. Then that could last beyond your death. The only thing we have going for us guys is that after we die, the music will live on arguably. Will anybody listen to it? Don't know. But it was, I believe it was important to do it. You know that we're exercising our freedom of speech and expression.

Hard people.

Christina (59:42.508)
Like that alone is a good fact to just do what we love even though it can get hard sometimes and scary. Like were you freaked out when the, my God, you're so busy. You must've been freaking out when the pandemic hit at first, but then weren't you busier than ever?

yeah, it got really weird because again, everyone started getting...

that they had more time. Because this thing in the industry, like a lot of people do work several jobs or like whatever and play music and write or do several things. So when everything shut down, it seemed like everyone's like, well, I can sit here and I can actually just focus on, I can't go to work. So I'm gonna like, the music thing can come to the forefront and I can work on that. So I got a lot of people just like, I've got this batch of songs. Can you lay drums on them? Do you have a home setup? Yes, I do. Okay, cool. And then it was like, okay, after the races. And that kept happening over and over.

It was like became which is neat because that way of doing things started again You look at it as being a weird negative time, but it was like one of the things where it forced people into thinking like Approaching things in a different way and getting learning how to do that process. Yeah, so I was like that was kind of cool in a way, but

Oh my God, I had to learn so much shit when the pandemic hit, like just on the technical side, but I'm glad we had that time and some support to do that. Yeah. Okay, how long was this so far?

Jordi (01:01:08.526)
52 minutes.

Okay, well we're getting close to that time. We've also been working for, I don't know, nine or some 10 hours and went to skate park and we had chicken dinner and it's like time to get ready for bed soon so we can get up. It's beautiful. Tomorrow's like a little, with three songs and then overdubs. You're not doing six songs today. it was...

full day tomorrow.

Jordi (01:01:27.416)
Freaky over Dub Day.

Jordi (01:01:32.078)
That's pretty damn good. I don't know what our record is. What is your record? I've like 13 and it was like, but it's like, I've, the person comes in and talks about 13 songs. I have them charted to the letter and they'd come in and we go, okay, boom, one or two takes done. There's, there was no experimenting. It was just like, sound hammer mode. Like get it just to sound. No, was just like general. This is a drum sound and hopefully it works for most things and just to the next, to the next.

record.

Christina (01:02:01.782)
work for an album if you want like a common thread and a vibe over the whole thing. But I don't like that.

I like the way today was fun because again, that's the thing we it's funny because it's six songs sounds like man, so, you know crazy, but we we actually spent quite a bit of time experimenting and even with that many songs were still like Trying different things. Yeah more sound different sound thing. Yes a lot of the parts stuck in with everything gelled really well and felt good at the gate so it like

but what about this snare tone or this dampening or like what's the room sound approach? And that was really fun. I love having the time to do that to really give the song character through the sound.

Yeah, you guys did most of the work. I just roasted a chicken. I was actually, I was writing, I was actually writing a grant application while you guys were, but, So where can people, like, are you still taking, students and do you do virtual lessons?

I'm booked up now. Like I do Monday through Thursdays when I'm home. And my whole roster for the season is booked up. I do, I have done virtual again through pandemic. I kind of got into doing that and I still have a student or two where they can't make it in person because they're, you know.

Jordi (01:03:20.846)
for whatever reason and they'll just say, can I just do it for a show this time? So I'm used to that. So I'll just say, yeah, sure, no problem. And do it that way. But yeah. Well, you have an instruction book as well. yeah, we finally got that. How do people get that? Oh, actually, I've got it. People direct message me and order them. that is like direct messaging me on Messenger or Instagram.

Yeah.

Christina (01:03:45.858)
You mean messenger is Facebook Messenger, Instagram, and then you have a website.

And I have website, yeah, Jordi Comstock.com. like, yeah, email me through that or whatever. like people do, they reach me through any of those methods and say, hey, I want one and, and I'll ship them out to them.

And you and Kirk have your studios so you can also do remote sessions. And I mean, will again brag about you in the intro that I do, um, session like for live and session work, like I, I have zero concerns, worries when I, when you're on the job and it's so fun and you're, you're great. Cause you come prepared with the charts and all that. don't even, I don't, it's, I feel bad sometimes cause I'm

Yeah, yeah

Christina (01:04:30.254)
I sometimes will put like, I don't know how to write charts and I don't know like bars and stuff, but sometimes I'll just put in numbers like, like, oh, 16 bars. And it's actually like just two. I find it like when you come in, you're like, that one's actually just two. And I'm like, I thought it was 16.

That was pretty wide. I counted 16. think you're thinking eighth notes. I might be beat. I've had this so many times, like it's come in after eight and I'm like, okay, and I'm like blowing through and they're like after a bar or like two bars and I'm like, oh, you meant quarter notes, eight beats, like, okay. But that's common. mean, that's, know.

Well, you never give me a hard time. I'm waiting for it, but, I wouldn't blame you. Um, but you all, and then the overdub bits are so fun and you're just so good at that. So it's just great having you around. You're really, you're up for a tooth or dare, uh, after the shows and facials.

The kind with the paper you put on to make your better. To clarify.

Exactly. This is so fun. I'm glad you did this with us and I'm glad you taught us how to skateboard today. And thank you so much for like, you know, like hanging out with us. Do you have any parting words you'd like to share with the world? Like tips for the kids? Stay off the hard...

Jordi (01:05:53.877)
It's my pleasure.

Jordi (01:06:02.68)
drugs. up, stay off the crack cocaine and be kind to each other. We love each other. Exactly.

Plan B

Christina (01:06:19.534)
I'm say goodbye to you

Christina (01:06:26.41)
I don't wanna say goodbye to you

Christina (01:06:35.106)
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